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Slovenia still wouldn’t have gotten Trieste in the “U.S.g.A.” (source)
While browsing through the most righteous and enjoyable blog, Strange Maps, I stumbled across a masterpiece drawn up by the Romanian politician Aurel Popovici in 1906, which envisioned federalizing Austria-Hungary into Die Vereinigten Staaten von Groß-Österreich. (The United States of Greater Austria)
Apparently his idea had the support (or at least interest) of heir-to-the-throne Franz Ferdinand, the same guy who thought cruising around restive Sarajevo with the top down on a Serbian holiday was a good idea. (Apropos FF, the story of his termination is one of the strangest and most compelling events in European history. If you’ve never read a detailed account of it, you should do so.)
It’s unclear whether such a plan would have ever come to fruition. And how well it would function even if it did. One potential bonus: When Slovenia inevitably declared independence, it might have done so under the name “Carniola,” whereas Slovakia may have taken “Slovakialand,” meaning that I’d be posting about California-Carniola mix-ups instead of what we have now.
Links
–> A nice big map of the U.S.g.A.
–> Wikipedia story and map
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Michael, what are the green spots on the map? As far as I know, there are no lakes in that particular area….
@pengovsky: “Michael, what are the green spots on the map? ”
The legend says: “Autonomous enclaves (mostly German)”.
Thank you for this links! The Popovici-Plan was something new for me… and the maps of Thomas Griesbacher are really nice - and quite accurate.
This idea was obviously similar to United Slovenia, a Slovenian nationalistic programme from 1848.
@Matej: Thanks! Must have missed it.
what information can you give me about europes history on the canadian aboriginal lands?
If you’ve never read a detailed account of it
If you want a really detailed account, I recommend the book “The Road to Sarajevo” by Vladimir Dedijer (preferably in the Serbo-Croatian or Slovenian edition, which are more extensive than the English and French ones). It even tells you what they had for dinner the day before
Yeah, great site (and it has some pretty accurate maps, too). Popovici’s plan (he was a Romanian from Transylvania) was to divide along ethnic (linguistic) lines. The proposal was clearely aimed against the supremacy of Hungarians and ethnic Germans in the empire. Popovici was member of the so-called “Belvedere circle”, i.e. a group of polititians and intellectuals that gravitated around archiduke Franz Ferdinand (who had his residence at the Belvedere castle in Vienna).
To divide the Austrian-Hungarian Empire along ethnic lines, clearely.
Just as a curiosity: Austria-Hungary was a state without an official name. In fact, while the Hungarian part was officially known as “The Lands of the Crown of St.Stephan”, the western part was referred in the official documents simply as “The Kingdoms and Lands Represented in the Imperial Diet”. Thus, the closest denomination for whole country would have been: The Kingdoms and Lands Represented in the Imperial Diet and the Lands of the Crown of St.Stephan, which is possibly the longest name for any country ever.
“california - carniola”
… I think people would think arnold s. is again governor of carniola.
Another neat mix up … I think I would like it.
Well, no, Luka, that WAS Kakania’s official name: Die im Reichsrat vertretenen Königreiche und Länder und die Länder der heiligen ungarischen Stephanskrone (and the same in Hungarian). You forgot “sacred”, though. And, according to my grandmother, it did what it said on the tin